Tuesday, April 22, 2008

Are there 8 Different Types of Aspergers?

I was recently directed to an interesting video on Youtube (embedded below this article). Basically it suggests that there are eight major types of Aspergers and that aspies are usually a mix of one, two or three of these.

Note: This is not accepted research - just a set of ideas that someone put forward to help those who were self-diagnosed.

The types are named after people. I'm not sure that I agree with the list or with the descriptions. I'm even less sure that these people are definitely aspies but it is still good food for thought. I've reproduced a lot of the content and added some of my own thoughts;

1. Spielberg (Based on Steven Spielberg)
A sociable, sporty, extroverted aspie with average IQ but poor spelling and grammar.

Of all the types, this is the one I disagree with the most - the traits aren't very aspie at all. In fact, I really can't see any commonality with this and other forms of Aspergers.

2. Einstein (Obviously based on Albert Einstein)
An Intellectual with a high IQ and excellent spelling/grammar. They're an expert in their special interest, often good with computers and usually quite argumentative - especially in areas of special interest.

I can relate quite well to this type. Probably too well in fact - though, unfortunately, I'm no "Einstein".

3. Powell (Possibly? based on Enoch Powell
An agressive/hostile/violent and intelligent aspie who is often bullied and may use drugs for stress. Possibly also having Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) or Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD).

I have met a few aspies who seem to be "fighters" or who see the world as "out to get them". I'm not sure where the drug bits came in but I can see how PTSD could have affected Enoch. I just don't see that it has much to do with Aspergers.

4. Numan (I think based on Gary Numan)
A spaced out daydreamer type who finds it difficult to understand others and is often misunderstood in return. Likely to have bonding issues and possibly bipolar.

I'm often spaced out... but not that spaced out.

5. Morrissey (Presumably the singer )
A unique, artistic and creative aspie who feels separated from people and is possibly schizophrenic. These people don't fit in well with society and often feel alien or like they belong in a different time period.

Yes, I can relate rather well to this though I'm not sure if I'm an alien or a time traveller. :-)

6. Nicholls (Presumably Aussie Craig Nicholls
A hyperactive, energetic and extroverted aspie who has no problems making friends - just problems keeping them. These aspies are often considered to be irritating, immature and childish. Unlike many aspies, they don't have much social fear and like to talk to people. They may also have Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADD/ADHD). In Nicholl's case, he claims to be a compulsive liar which goes against the general honesty normally associated with aspies.

Again, this description goes against a lot of well-documented aspie traits and personally, I'm not convinced that this is a type of Aspergers.

7. Carroll (It could only be Lewis Carroll)
A passive and very introverted aspie. Quiet, shy and deeply involved in their special interest. For these aspies, friends and relationships are secondary to their special interests. They're very passive, and show little emotion externally but are often very anxious inside. They're quite likely to be bullied.

I can relate a bit to this one too. Those special interests get you every time.

8. Warhol (From the description, this obviously Andy Warhol - not that there are any other famous Warhols anyway).
A confident and egocentric aspie who is full of ideas but feels that the world misunderstands them. While friendly in formal settings, the Warhol type can become revengeful and bitter when problems occur. They could also have Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) traits.

This looks to me to be simply a blending of several of the other types of aspie.

Finally, a credit, and an apology to Amy Nelson. The YouTube video, and probably the entire idea, is hers. I attempted to get permission to use these but was unable to contact her. Amy, if you're reading, I hope you don't mind.

The Video in Question


Anonymous said...

I've been reading your blog recently and I wanted to thank you for making it. I deeply love an Aspie friend of mine and I'm looking for answers. It's so difficult sometimes but he is worth the effort. I wish I knew if he felt any love for me, I've never asked and he's never told me. Keep writing and I'll keep reading. Could you write something on the Aspie view of age difference? When a friend or mate is older? Thanks.

Maggie said...

Can't say that I agree with the video to be honest.....great music though!!!! ;oD

Meredith said...

Well, the Spielberg one puzzled me a lot, too, but... could it be "fitting in as a special interest" or the "overcompensating type"? Hmmm...

BTW, according to this, I'm a Morrissey with prominent Nicholls and more subtle Einstein traits...

Anonymous said...

I think this video was made in the US and I think the Powell type is refering to Colin Powell, the US Army General...and former secretary of State.

Also a vietnam vet, look up some Youtube videos of him...if my Aspiedar is right, he is a very high functioning aspie

Anonymous said...

From your descriptions, I'd be a Numan with a little bit of Carroll. I'm laughing--I've got a Louise Brooks haircut and just finished sewing a dress from a 1922 pattern. Oops.

I used to watch the show "Third Rock From the Sun" all the time (and loved it). My dad--also an Aspie--hated it because he didn't think it was funny. I suspect it hit a little too close to home.

angela said...

While who ever came up with this is clever, I give them props for creativity, I trying to catagorize all people with AS into 8 different personality types is pretty short sighted.

I mean, isn't there as much personality variation among aspies as there are amont NT's? We are all people after all.

Daniel Tyson said...


HoangVu said...

Aspergers do not care about age, at all, at least, I don't ...

Someone... said...

I think I am Einstein, Numan, and Nicholls

Kelly said...

Just wanted to say that I do agree with 6-Nicholls as being a "type" of Aspergers. My son has Aspergers and he fits much of this description well. His therapist has said that it is a myth that all people with Asperger's have no interest in friends. Some of them, such as my son, are very social but very awkward and very aggressive in their friendliness which turns people off.

"Aspie" said...

I have to say that I'm a little offensive about being called an "apsie". I don't know what I used to do, but I just wanted people to leave me be so I can think to myself. Then I started making threats about punching them and that sure stopped them from coming around. Not necessarily a bad thing since I'm still not into guys and, as my mom thinks, my face keeps bringing them around. It's not that I'm not into friends, it's just that they probably wouldn't understand the way I think anyways. Now I've got a new tactic where I laugh so loud and long that people don't like being around me. Well, except for my friend; but he's got ADHD, so it's easy to understand why I keep him around.

Anonymous said...

whats this crap?you re taking every famous guy with aspergers and say its a different type?so in greece or germany for example we should

make other types based on the famous native aspies?and most are a mix of that?are there types or not?i ve heard there are types
(for example rule aspie)but certainly not as you categorize them

Anonymous said...

Im the Caroll Type.

Daniel B said...

The Nicholls type actually sounds very much like several friends i have who have aspergers. I wouldn't discount it.

Leanne Thomas said...

I'm a mixture of Carroll and Einstein- more so Carroll; I'm quite meticulous at spelling and grammar and quite defensive or confrontational when I am in disagreement with someone over one of my special interests (I have 2 interests), but I am extremely introverted, I tend express my emotions inwardly rather than externally, and most of my life is centered around my interests.

Anonymous said...

I'm all of them....but I don't have aspergers!

Raziel said...

I'm deff. a combination out of the Spielberg Type and the Morrissey Type.
Spielberg: I like talking to ppl, eventhough I was a very quiet child, I don't do much sport, but I loooove snowboarding, my IQ is above average, but I had dyslexia as a child. I know this is not the typical autistic clichée this type.

Morrissey: Well I'm not schizophrenic but I write poems, am a daydreamer. But I can get thoughts close to paranoia when I had a trauma and also psychotic like symptoms. But I'm not even schizotypal, but maybe some traits, would also fit with my Bipolar, but nothing enough to dx something else in addition. So just Bipolar and ASD.

Katie said...

This is really cool. It helps tonnes. My boyfriend has asperges and he openly talks about it with me all he time. But in my own time I like to research other things about him. It's amazing how this one condition has several other sub categories to it.

Anonymous said...

This seems like a good concept and should be expanded.
Some people think the Spielberg type isn't "real" but I disagree, I know plenty of "Spielberg" type aspies

Anonymous said...

I'm somewhere between the Einstein and Warhol type (With a bit of Numan)
My crush is definitely between Nicholls and Spielberg (I always said he was "Borderline NT", have a label now :P)

Jo said...

My Daughter is Einstein and Carroll.. Beautiful child.

Bleu Hope said...

I'm a visual artist and photography student with Asperger's and I kind of see myself as Morrissey-Numan-Carroll hybrid for the most part, with a hint of Warhol in there for good measure.

Not much of a science geek but the necessity for quality grammar/articulation from the Einstein paragraph is very much me. I know of the sort who are a mix of the Spielberg and Nicholls inclination, but it's quite rare and peculiar in my life experiences.

The Enoch Powell one puzzled me ever so slightly, though it's interesting you mentioned it given I was reading about this not long ago...it more or less backs up what you meant: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26440468

Anonymous said...

I hope you know that this is all nonsense - as an Asperger I'm continually amazed at the attempts to turn us into fantasy creatures.

Gavin Bollard said...

This is simply like someone sorting objects by size instead of by colour. It doesn't mean that it's the right categorisation but sometimes it's fun to look at anyway.